Let's start with this link to Paul Krugman's op-ed piece in the NYTimes:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/10/opinion/10krugman.html?_r=1
From there, let's talk about the real difference between emotional, biased reporting... say the kinds you'll find plenty of examples of on MSNBC, and hate speech, the kind you find examples of on Fox. Or better yet, let's let Krugman sum it up with a few quotes from the article at that link:
Krugman begins by asking this question:
When you heard the terrible news from Arizona, were you completely surprised? Or were you, at some level, expecting something like this atrocity to happen?
By way of an answer, Krugman pieces together some crazy shit that Fox and the right will certainly begin to wildly explain away, but a few of the more salient points follow (from Krugman's piece):
As Clarence Dupnik, the sheriff responsible for dealing with the Arizona shootings, put it, it’s “the vitriolic rhetoric that we hear day in and day out from people in the radio business and some people in the TV business.” The vast majority of those who listen to that toxic rhetoric stop short of actual violence, but some, inevitably, cross that line.
... there’s a big difference between bad manners and calls, explicit or implicit, for violence; insults aren’t the same as incitement.
The point is that there’s room in a democracy for people who ridicule and denounce those who disagree with them; there isn’t any place for eliminationist rhetoric, for suggestions that those on the other side of a debate must be removed from that debate by whatever means necessary.
And it’s the saturation of our political discourse — and especially our airwaves — with eliminationist rhetoric that lies behind the rising tide of violence.
Let’s not make a false pretense of balance: it’s coming, overwhelmingly, from the right. It’s hard to imagine a Democratic member of Congress urging constituents to be “armed and dangerous” without being ostracized; but Representative Michele Bachmann, who did just that, is a rising star in the G.O.P.
I know... I know... Krugman, like so many Yale and MIT trained, Harvard Published, and Stanford, Yale, and Princeton-employed economists is clearly one of those liberal wackos who's long since fallen off the left end of the flat earth...nevermind the Nobel Prize, or the John Bates Clark Medal. He's clearly an idiot who knows not what he's talking about! Right.
I don't even know how to respond to the kind of blindness that doesn't allow folks to see exactly where the rhetoric of the right has led us. If you can't or won't see it for yourself, there's likely no changing your mind, but the fact remains that incitements to, and the use of the language of violence, and all out calls for it are found on just one "news" network, and, at least as far as a cultural swing, just one end of the political spectrum... and one end alone.
There may be childish, emotional arguments, name-calling, and jabs coming from the MSNBC end of the spectrum, but folks there don't protest funerals or urge their followers to pick up guns or behead people... they don't Tweet for them to "reload."
In order to avoid having to use the F-word in this post, I'm going to finish with some more from Krugman's piece:
Listen to Rachel Maddow or Keith Olbermann, and you’ll hear a lot of caustic remarks and mockery aimed at Republicans. But you won’t hear jokes about shooting government officials or beheading a journalist at The Washington Post. Listen to Glenn Beck or Bill O’Reilly, and you will.
...Of course, the likes of Mr. Beck and Mr. O’Reilly are responding to popular demand.
But even if hate is what many want to hear, that doesn’t excuse those who pander to that desire. They should be shunned by all decent people.
Unfortunately, that hasn’t been happening: the purveyors of hate have been treated with respect, even deference, by the G.O.P. establishment. As David Frum, the former Bush speechwriter, has put it, “Republicans originally thought that Fox worked for us and now we’re discovering we work for Fox.”
I gotta tell ya, to hear this ivy-leaguer point out many of the same observations I've noticed throughout my years of surveying Fox, CNN, and MSNBC kind of makes me feel a little better about the state U diploma I FINALLY got in the mail this week. I also gotta tell ya these observations are about more than a little disagreement based solely on one's political bias. They represent a decisive difference in one's actual respect for one's fellow man. I suspect this difference may have something to do with some kind of ulterior motive... say, perhaps, a reward in another life...one that justifies all manner of horrible behavior in this life, eh?
Ah, but that's a line Krugman will not cross. Our current paradigm is such that social scientists, no matter how dismal, would rather fail to explain a phenomena than suggest there may be a religious cause to it. And with that, before I either use, or incite use of the F-word...
Luth
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2 comments:
Luth, I intentionally haven't posted on your blog in about a year now, though I still occasionally stop in to read what you have to say.
Let me challenge you a little. There has been much call for civility since the events of this past Saturday, but it actually started before that when many people became discouraged over the strong rhetoric used by both sides. How about I twist the blame game and say ultimately the shooting this weekend is the fault of Obama? He is the one that told his followers to bring guns to knife fights and that is exactly what that shooter did. He listened to Obama. But, of course that is crazy, but the killer was crazy. There are more crazy people out there, too. I wonder with all this focus on Sarah Palin and the vitriol sent her way by liberals what the reaction would be if some killer shot her in the next few days? I firmly believe some liberals would cheer based on comments I've read. Don't forget in past conversations I have emphasized I am not a Palin fan, I wish she'd quietly recede into the woodwork. I will never vote for her.
But, let me get back to my point. There was much about the Tea Party that attracted me, but the one thing that kept turning me away was their strong rhetoric. There is some truth that we are responsible for what we say and how we say it because we never know who may respond to our words in a way we really didn't expect.
Here's my challenge to you. If we need to regain (assuming we ever had it) a sense of national civility, is your post taking us there or are you just as guilty as tea partiers of incendiary language?
Let me throw out something that is emotionally charged (and isn't that really the problem, the use of emotionally charged language?). Many of us feel that liberals too often throw the accusation of hate speech against conservatives when there is disagreement. And the fear is that we will lose freedom of speech as a result of what is happening. If I posit that gays should not be granted the right to marry, then I am branded a hater and may someday face punishment for holding that opinion. So, we on the right are fighting to avoid that day. Unfortunately, when it becomes a fight, the emotions become charged and we often say things that result in misunderstandings and as we saw this weekend, death.
We need to consider what role we each play in society. And here's one more observation you may find surprising, though I hope you wouldn't. Obama's response to this shooting was by far better than Sarah Palin's response. Obama said the right things.
Ray,
Nice to hear from you! My response was too long to leave here so I threw it up onto the main page.
Yer ol' buddy,
Luth
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